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    • Vaughan MacEgan
      Vaughan MacEgan last edited by

      Hello all,

      I am pretty much a noob when it comes to technology especially when it comes to guitar I don't know any of the nomenclature or terms and how to hook anything up. I don't have any guitar friends that I can look to for help.

      In any-case I have worked on my presets and got them to a point where I think they sound pretty good and thinking that I would like to play live with them.

      Now all that I know is that I would need to have the computer running protools to get access to the presets. But how would a go about getting the sounds running out to my Mackie powered speaker so that the sound is amplified properly? I don't what to be using the monitors hooked up to Pro Tools. I'm even at a loss to try and explain this simple thing.

      And what gear would I need to be able to change presets quicker than going through the list with a mouse and manually finding them to change them?

      Any help as to what I need to do is greatly appreciated!

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      • nuno.pimenta
        nuno.pimenta last edited by

        You can assign pathes to midi channels. So you can use a midi footswitch.
        Desktop version has no live mode as the mobile version. I hope they develop this soon.
        Then with a Full range guitar powered speacker you have it done.

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        • Vaughan MacEgan
          Vaughan MacEgan last edited by

          Thanks for the reply!

          I will begin looking into MIDI footswitches immediately! And also thankyou greatly for telling me that the desktop version has no featureset to play live.

          Cheers :)

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          • nuno.pimenta
            nuno.pimenta last edited by

            Live mode make it easy for you to see what you are doing in a tablet.
            I hope they add this feature to he desktop versions.

            But you can use it anyway with midi.
            If you have a few patches for the gig it will be easy without the "live mode"

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            • Vaughan MacEgan
              Vaughan MacEgan @nuno.pimenta last edited by

              @nuno-pimenta said in Using Bias FX/AMP live?:

              But you can use it anyway with midi.
              If you have a few patches for the gig it will be easy without the "live mode"

              I am not following what you are saying. How exactly do I get the the sound of Bias FX 2 going through to my FRFR speaker for a live gig? Is there some sort of hardware/software that can get the sound from Pro Tools somehow? It's impossible to use the guitar interface because the sound hasn't been processed at that point!?!?!

              There isn't a standalone program there is only the plug-in for ProTools. I am totally confused now!

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              • nuno.pimenta
                nuno.pimenta last edited by

                You can use Bias in standalone mode or inside your Daw software

                Guitar
                Audio Interface imput
                Software
                Audio Interface Output
                FRFR Speaker

                You need to have a low latency system. It´s something easy to get with a modern Interface with an Asio Driver. Some older interfaces have huge latencies.

                Use the lower possible audio buffer that works well

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                • AliBongo
                  AliBongo @Vaughan MacEgan last edited by AliBongo

                  @vaughan-macegan Hey, do you run BIAS FX 2 on Mac or Windows? If it is a Mac, log in to your Positive Grid account, click the circle with your initials, then "Download Page" and "Download" on the right hand side of BIAS FX 2. You can choose between three downloads: AU/VST, Pro Tools and Standalone.
                  If you want to change presets: Last week I bought a MIDI pedalboard, Line6 FBV MkII Express. It has four foot switches and an expression pedal and is connected to your computer with an USB A/B cable. I use two of the foot switches for presets up and down, the other two for preset banks up and down. Did not have to use the expression pedal yet. For my needs the configuration with the standalone version is really easy, a bit tricky with a DAW (Ableton Live) but I finally got both of them to work. Let me know if you need any support. I am not a MIDI pro but I can definitely help setting up a Line6 footswitch. ;-)

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                  • Vaughan MacEgan
                    Vaughan MacEgan last edited by

                    Hello,

                    Sorry for the late reply, we are in the middle of a heatwave here in Australia so time on the computer at home is limited. It's just so hot in that room, even at night :(

                    Anyway, I use a Windows system so I can't use a Standalone application only the plug-in in Pro-Tools. I did check the downloads at the Postive Grid and found that the plug-ins I use all had upgrades and downloaded them, since then Bias FX and Bias Amp crash a little less, "little" being the operative word.

                    As for getting sound to the speakers I need all the help you can give. I know very little about most of this stuff, like "very" little. And I get nevous and confused easily with all this stuff. You should've seen me when I got the "Eleven Rack" and trying to get that hooked up to monitors and Pro-Tools and an FRFR speaker. I was tearing my hair out and trying to explain over the phone what was happening to the salesman at the music store out of town and not knowing the lingo.

                    So, I'm all ears (or eyes in this case) for anything you can share to get me started.

                    Thankyou and Regards,
                    Vaughan.

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                    • sdzimmerman
                      sdzimmerman last edited by

                      Both Windows and Mac versions have standalone. The Windows version is part of the regular install and installs by default.

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                      • Vaughan MacEgan
                        Vaughan MacEgan @sdzimmerman last edited by Vaughan MacEgan

                        @sdzimmerman
                        Ok then, there is no icon on the desktop for the standalone application. So I didn't know that there was one. Would you please tells me where it lives in the folders or at least the name of the EXE file, so, I can find it on my computer and get it running.

                        Thankyou and Regards,
                        Vaughan.

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                        • Myxolydian
                          Myxolydian @Vaughan MacEgan last edited by

                          @vaughan-macegan You already know the name of the app you're looking for, and the first word of it is enough to find it in a simple search on your computer.

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                          • Vaughan MacEgan
                            Vaughan MacEgan @Myxolydian last edited by Vaughan MacEgan

                            @myxolydian
                            Ok, looking for positive grid .... nothing!
                            Ok, looking for PG ... nothing.
                            Ok looking for Bias FX ... oh, there you are!
                            Ok, better find Bias FX2 ... gotcha!
                            Better put an icon on the desktop.

                            OH SHIT ... why is it screeching at me? How is it picking up the guitar without the interface on? Turn on the interface screeching gets even louder. Moved back five feet from the computer screeching no getting any less. Noise gate on application not stopping the noise, noise gate in signal chain not stopping the noise.

                            This is awful!

                            And how is it picking up my voice!!! Time to RTFM again :(

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                            • Myxolydian
                              Myxolydian @Vaughan MacEgan last edited by

                              @vaughan-macegan BIAS Fx2 is using the speaker/mic on your computer as the input/output device, that's why it's feeding back and picking up your voice.. You can change that in the settings (the gear icon at the top), Audio Settings. Then select the interface for your guitar and choose ASIO (if your interface has an ASIO driver).

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                              • Vaughan MacEgan
                                Vaughan MacEgan @Vaughan MacEgan last edited by Vaughan MacEgan

                                @myxolydian
                                I was writing a reply, when I saw your reply just come through, another reason partly for the feedback was that it was turning on my webcam. it took me a long while to find out where my voice was coming from as I have no mic attached to the computer, only a Shure mic through the interface which wasn't on. That also accounts for the huge lag between hitting a note and hearing it back, the mic on the webcam must be good to have even picked it up at all. I'll fix what you say it see it it stops Bias FX2 turning on the webcam as well.

                                And I'd only had 3 hours sleep at that point, I was in a daze :)

                                Thanks for the reply.

                                EDIT: yes, it was using the webcam as the Input device, hence the reason why it was turning it on! FX2 is defaulting to the webcam when the interface isn't on. Now to look into ASIO (Australian Secret Intelligence Organization). The interface has a proprietary ASIO type driver, is picking up input and output and sending it to the PC monitors but not sending it to the FRFR speaker. and this is where my knowledge falls over. I'll have to try YouTube tutorials and try and increase my lingo before asking more about this in the near future. Might need a new interface to boot.

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                                • Vaughan MacEgan
                                  Vaughan MacEgan last edited by

                                  Well, I looked into ASIO4All, as it was suggested to another users for a Spark problem. Thought it was worth a try with the standalone and whammo, problems galore I couldn't get any sound out of the standalone at all be it monitors, or that horrible screeching out of the computer speakers after if turns on the webcam. As a last resort I removed ASIO4All fro the computer and still no joy couldn't find the settings I had used when I was getting sound out of the monitors. Then as a last, last resort reinstalled BiasFX2. Turned off the computer and went back in and ... nothing! Still could not find the proprietary ASIO drivers anywhere. Gave up and went to bed, before I did I disconnected everything from the USB hub, why would that do anything, I hear you ask, it shoudn't but it did once with ProTools finding the MIDI controller, which I did by accident once. Anyway, got up went and had a look at the settings and ... nothing. Then I kept at it because I was annoyed and lo and behold the ASIO driver appeared, don't know how it just did. Then I had sound back in the monitors. That was as far as I had gotten before, might be time to buy a new interface :( Then I made a small change in the output settings and what do you know the sound came through the FRFR speakers, wow progress. It was a Godawful roar and found out why the signal for the guitar modeller and Bias FX2 coming through together, why, I don't know, so anyway I emptied out the banks completely on the modeller and there it was the BIAS FX2 sound with almost no latency.

                                  So I looked around and I was finally there, the silver throne as the Prince of Biass.

                                  Might really be the time for a new interface.

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                                  • Vaughan MacEgan
                                    Vaughan MacEgan last edited by Vaughan MacEgan

                                    Well that lasted all of one day :(

                                    I setup my computer, interface and Bias FX2 standalone, getting ready for a guitar lesson and just before the lesson started, horrible feedback from the FRFR, so loud I had to turn it off - my hearing really took a beating - which wasn't easy as I was already sitting down with a flying V on my lap, and needing to navigate behind the FRFR speaker to shut it down whilst keeping the flying V from hitting anything, also my voice was also coming through a "microphone", can't tell which, although this time it wasn't the webcam. Settings had not changed. After the lesson I got it working again, but, can't understand why it happened, or if it will happen again.

                                    Fun, fun fun ... if this happens during a gig, I'll be screwed

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