BIAS 2.0.1.724 TONE BUG



  • Not necessarily a new topic I see, but I just upgraded today to Pro desk (foolishly thinking the "demo" was the problem) only to notice a drastic difference in tonal and response quality between BA1 & BA2(!) I feel better to see I'm not the only one, but very disconcerted none the less. I'm sure this can be sorted out.

    Has anybody else experienced this? Honestly? I've been using the trial demo and thought it was good! Not Earth shattering but good! Then I A/B'd them in standalone mode. I literally tested every single stock amp & cab without touching a thing! Every BA 2 amp sounded dull, like all the presence and high end is rolled off, and a weird, muddy, midrange-honk type thing. Very strange. Since there's another whole thread(sorry for being redundant), and it's been mentioned in other places, I'm gonna assume that this is a "thing"?
    Let me know your A/B results(!) Thanks.

    Using a SG w/Duncan 59''s Audient iD14 into Sierra in standalone mode thru JBL LSR-305's. Have yet to open in Logic. I shudder to think.

    And thanks to the whole team @PG, who's gotta be exhausted after wrapping up NAMM and juggling this new release!

    Seriously, somebody just leave the remedy in the comment below. Tnx!

    You seem nice!

    Mark

    EDIT: CAME BACK AN HOUR LATER AND PROBLEM IS GONE! FIXED. NO IDEA WHAT IT WAS. THE ONLY THING IS IF YOU FIND AN AMP THAT'S OVERLY DARK, OR NOT BRIGHT ENOUGH: MOVE THE MIC CLOSER TO THE CENTER CAP TO BRIGHTEN IT AND LOOSEN UP THE 'WOOF".



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  • @mark-meyers To be fair that is your own personal search history. That is why it says 'remove' beside it.



  • @elric You're absolutely right! Thank you for pointing that out so I can take it down! (I *did think that was odd)
    However, the fact still remains: something is definitely wrong. I'm sure it's an easy fix. I have full faith ;)



  • I don't have your problem but I also have a different setup so it might be useful so you can narrow issues down. I run Bias Amp 1 and 2 through through an M-Audio sound card which I run in to the power amp section of my mini Jubilee combo that uses a Greenback. Both versions of the software are very close to each other. I also have Bias Head that I run into the power amp, to my ears it sounds just about as close to using the soundcard.

    I've made presets in Bias Amp 1 that match the sound of my real Jubilee to the point that I can't tell the difference when switching out from software and the power amp and into the front of my amp. It's that close. I mention this so you or anyone else reading knows that at least the "amp" side of Bias Amp is solid but I can't say for IRs as I've never used them.

    I know it's maybe not helpful but have you tried other guitar software? Can you run into a poweramp and see how that sounds? Maybe the soundcard drivers might need reinstalling.



  • Well I'll be damned! I have no idea what happened, but I opened them both an hour later in my DAW and they basically sounded the same! Problem completely disappeared! So weird. The only thing I did find is if you find some models that sound dark, and all the high end is rolled off, etc. It's the mic placement(!) Even though they look the same, they're not. So say, a 4X12 Greenback pointed at the cone, closer to the edge in BA 1? You'd have to move the mic closer (if not dead hovering) to the cap for them to sound the same, and usually a bit of distance tweaking. But that is it. Zero EQ changes. I check and it's now working in both standalone and in my DAW with no issue. Both platforms *passed the A/B test(!!!)
    Now I gotta amend every post. Ugh. So glad I figured it out though, I think..
    Haha, well, it has been an adventure in troubleshooting. Thanks for everyone's input!



  • @matt-val Yeah, thanks, man! Idk what the hell happened, but I put it down, came back to it, start A/Bing again, and they started to sound fine, and like I said: there are a few amps that have a dark, high-end roll-off thing happening(?) It's the mic placement. But that's it, no EQ or gain changes! If you experience 'the darkness", move the mic closer to the cap, if not directly hovering over it. Not sure what's up with that calibration. I'm sure all these things and more will be fixed in due time.