Recording with dual amps.
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Hey guys!
I am trying to record with Bias FX's dual amps feature. It makes sense to pan one amp left and one amp right. However this does not work on a mono track. When I create a stereo track my audio image only comes out on one side. Has anyone else bumped into this problem?
I am using a Presonus Audiobox USB96 which has two inputs...so I am guessing one input is left and one is right. I used to use a toneport years ago which had one input and never had this problem. I am also using Cubase Elements 9.5 if that is relevant.
Any help one be much appreciated! :) Thanks you!!!!
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Check the panning on the mixer in bias fx, it has nothing to do with your interface inputs
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I have done that dude. The problem is if I set up a stereo track I am only getting the audio on one side which prevents me from even slightly panning dual amps. But thanks =)
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I'm not super duper familiar with cubase, but I would assume, that even with a mono input, stereo plugin will give you a stereo output. If that isn't the case, then maybe use another DAW or some sort of bussing so that eventually Bias ends up with a dual mono input or something. Hopefully someone more familiar with cubase can chime in
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@o-gregory2 In order to record a stereo track in Cubase, you have to have a stereo bus input. In your Audio Connections, I'm assuming you've set up a stereo bus (for this example, Input 1 and Input 2), but the only active input is the one your guitar is plugged into (Input 1). The other input channel (Input 2) is listed in the stereo bus, but there's no signal coming to that channel. Hence, when you record, the Input 1 channel(Left) is recording your guitar signal, and the Input 2 channel(Right) is recording....nothing. That's why you see right side of your recorded track blank.
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But normally DAWs handle this automatically, for instance, if I have the track armed with just one input, Ill get both sides at the output. If say I put a harmonizer first, then the dry will come out one side of the amps output and the pitch shifted will come out the other side
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@pipelineaudio No, DAW's will not 'automatically' handle anything other than what you assign them to handle. In this instance, assigning Input 1 and Input 2 to a stereo track, the DAW will do exactly as its told to do: record the sound of Input 1 to the left side of the stereo track, and record the sound of Input 2 to the right side of the stereo track.
If there's no sound coming into Input 2, it will record that silence, as it was told to do. That is what is happening here.
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@o-gregory2 You can achieve what you're looking for by setting up a mono input and then recording. Put BIAS FX as an insert, pan your two amps inside BIAS FX left and right, and then record. You'll be able to hear the fully panned left side amp and right side amp in the track recorded.
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@myxolydian said in Recording with dual amps.:
@pipelineaudio No, DAW's will not 'automatically' handle anything other than what you assign them to handle. In this instance, assigning Input 1 and Input 2 to a stereo track, the DAW will do exactly as its told to do: record the sound of Input 1 to the left side of the stereo track, and record the sound of Input 2 to the right side of the stereo track.
If there's no sound coming into Input 2, it will record that silence, as it was told to do. That is what is happening here.
If you arm a stereo track and just give one of the inputs signal, sure,
But if you arm a mono track, at least in REAPER, you will hear both sides of the output just fine
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@pipelineaudio Yes, and that is what I told him to do in my latest reply.
My previous answer was describing WHY he was getting the result he was getting. -
@myxolydian Dude, thank you so much! This worked! Should of been pretty obvious.
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@o-gregory2 👍🙂
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@pipelineaudio which is why we love Reaper....
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it does seem like you have a solution, however might i suggest something that might just get you a better result in your mix.
Whenever i record dual amp setups I always record two tracks going through the single amp pathways. you can reamp to do this with the same raw recording but to be honest i often just play everything twice to give it a more organic feel. This way if you want to change one amp out later or tweak something in the mix ( maybe the presence of one amp is a little much when panned) you can do so easier than having to either reamp everything through the dual amp setup or rerecord through both.
A second trick is to do two seperate mono tracks with two versions of the plug in then arm both for recording and record them at the same time. You get the same performance but still the flexibility to tweak both signal chains independently. (this is very useful for recording solos.)
