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    • esofron
      esofron last edited by esofron

      Hello, after a lot of investigation, i am able to use the wah pedal with auto engage on ipad.
      I am using a 3rd party software (midifire) and it is available for Mac OS, also. So, this might be useful for anyone using Mac or Ios.
      Here is video i created
      Bias FX for iPad auto engage wah pedal

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      • Vaultnaemsae
        Vaultnaemsae last edited by

        Hi,
        That's a very helpful tool - thanks for sharing.
        I copied the script into a Stream Byter device in MIDIFire and it installs correctly.
        Could you explain the script a little to help with customizing it to different setups?
        Thanks,
        Luke

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        • esofron
          esofron last edited by

          Hello.
          The script code provided by the midifire developers.
          In general as i understand it triggers the expression pedal and sends a specific CC code to switch on the wah, if it gets higher. I set that value to 5, but this can be different for someone else.
          I believe a lower value will be very sensitive, this needs to be set by everyone individually depending on their expression pedal.

          here is the link from the forum i discussed about this if you want to get more info
          Midifire forum biasfx

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          • esofron
            esofron last edited by

            Also, i added a channel strip, because in the first place the wah was working but i couldn't enable/disable the rest assigned pedals.

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            • Vaultnaemsae
              Vaultnaemsae last edited by

              Thanks,

              In the meantime I found that forum and your original post.
              I created a triple Stream Byter device in MidiFire that enables 'auto engage' type messages for all three continuous controller pedals in my rig. It originally didn't work because I tried to enter decimal instead of hex values - doh! But all working perfectly now - at least on iOS. I haven't purchased the macOS version yet but probably will sooner or later. Nic from Audeonic was super helpful.

              BTW, I didn't need the channel strip in my setup - it works fine without it.

              Thanks again for pointing out the direction for this useful hack.

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              • esofron
                esofron last edited by

                Nice, i am glad that this solution helped you.
                I needed the channel strip because the other pedals couldn't react to CC messages. So, in this way i changed the midi channel to different one on biasfx, as my pedalboard is et on channel 1. And the issue was that, because both were listening on ch1.
                Are you using different channel on your devices?

                I was also enter decimal values and later on i found out it is using hex.
                Can you share the triple configuration and how you use it.

                Thanks.

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                • Vaultnaemsae
                  Vaultnaemsae last edited by

                  Sure, I'll make an explanation video and upload it to YouTube in the next couple of days.

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                  • guitarkite
                    guitarkite last edited by

                    Such a useful hack! One little add-on and you suddenly made Bias FX 1000% more usable! Kudos!! Now all I need is to make a script in Midifire to put minimum and maximum limits on my volume pedal! If anyone is fluent in Midifire's scripting code... There's a need for a midi "compression" script.

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                    • esofron
                      esofron @guitarkite last edited by

                      @guitarkite I believe you can get more help on midifire forum for the compression script. Ask there, they are very helpful.

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                      • guitarkite
                        guitarkite last edited by

                        Got it running great! As a bonus, I was able to take the MIDI out from my iPad and can control my PC version just as well!

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                        • esofron
                          esofron @guitarkite last edited by

                          @guitarkite Great, i read your other post here, also.
                          Can you explain in more detail on you are using your blueboard with ipad to control Bias on pc? if i understand correctly.
                          thanks.

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                          • guitarkite
                            guitarkite @esofron last edited by

                            @esofron Sorry for the delay in answering...

                            So, if you have an ipad, iphone, or new ipod with an interface that has a MIDI out on it...

                            Load up the app called MidiFire by Audionic as well as the IK Multimedia Blue Board app.

                            Go to the Audionic website and look up the script that's specific to "MIDI Auto-Engage on Bias FX". It takes a little looking, but you should be able to find it... Copy it.

                            Make sure you have the Blue Board app on and running...

                            Go into MidiFire... Add Blue Board as your MIDI input. Add a module called Stream Byter... And finally, add your interface's MIDI out. Connect all 3 together in a chain... Blue Board > Stream Byter > MIDI out.

                            In Stream Byter, add the copied script, then tap "Run Script". (Be aware that you may have to change the script to match what cc#'s you will be using.) (Also, be aware that Stream Byter uses hexadecimal raw MIDI to denote MIDI channel, and cc#'s... You can use the MIDI monitor in MidiFire to find the equivalent hexadecimal value of your specific MIDI channel and cc#.)

                            Run the MIDI out of your iOS devices interface into the MIDI in of your computer's interface.

                            In Bias FX on your computer, set the appropriate MIDI cc# for both the wah control as well as the on/off toggle for the wah. On mine, I use cc#1 for the wah control and cc#10 for the toggle.

                            If you're unfamiliar with where to do these... The toggle control is in the master MIDI menu (Add the Crybaby Wah as a permanently set toggle.) ... While the wah control is accessed by pressing on the virtual wah pedal on the screen.

                            If you wish to use this Auto-Engage script on the iOS version of Bias FX, simply add Bias FX in MidiFire, and route the Stream Byter's output to it instead of the MIDI out.

                            Hope this helps.

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                            • esofron
                              esofron last edited by

                              So, the main difference here is that you change the output from biasfx(ipad) to a midi device that is connected to the computer, correct?

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                              • guitarkite
                                guitarkite @esofron last edited by

                                @esofron Correct. Although Blue Boards won't work natively with PC's, once it's been connected to an iOS device, you're free to manipulate or send that MIDI info wherever you'd like.

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                                • guitarkite
                                  guitarkite last edited by

                                  And also... I accidentally misspelled "Audeonic"

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                                  • esofron
                                    esofron @guitarkite last edited by

                                    @guitarkite said in Bias FX for iPad auto engage wah pedal:

                                    @esofron Sorry for the delay in answering...

                                    So, if you have an ipad, iphone, or new ipod with an interface that has a MIDI out on it...

                                    Load up the app called MidiFire by Audionic as well as the IK Multimedia Blue Board app.

                                    Go to the Audionic website and look up the script that's specific to "MIDI Auto-Engage on Bias FX". It takes a little looking, but you should be able to find it... Copy it.

                                    Make sure you have the Blue Board app on and running...

                                    Go into MidiFire... Add Blue Board as your MIDI input. Add a module called Stream Byter... And finally, add your interface's MIDI out. Connect all 3 together in a chain... Blue Board > Stream Byter > MIDI out.

                                    In Stream Byter, add the copied script, then tap "Run Script". (Be aware that you may have to change the script to match what cc#'s you will be using.) (Also, be aware that Stream Byter uses hexadecimal raw MIDI to denote MIDI channel, and cc#'s... You can use the MIDI monitor in MidiFire to find the equivalent hexadecimal value of your specific MIDI channel and cc#.)

                                    Run the MIDI out of your iOS devices interface into the MIDI in of your computer's interface.

                                    In Bias FX on your computer, set the appropriate MIDI cc# for both the wah control as well as the on/off toggle for the wah. On mine, I use cc#1 for the wah control and cc#10 for the toggle.

                                    If you're unfamiliar with where to do these... The toggle control is in the master MIDI menu (Add the Crybaby Wah as a permanently set toggle.) ... While the wah control is accessed by pressing on the virtual wah pedal on the screen.

                                    If you wish to use this Auto-Engage script on the iOS version of Bias FX, simply add Bias FX in MidiFire, and route the Stream Byter's output to it instead of the MIDI out.

                                    Hope this helps.

                                    Hi Again, i tried this one to enable wah via ipad without success. My connected devices chain is the following

                                    meloaudio(pedal)-ipad
                                    meloaudio midi-out -> steinberg mk2 midi-in
                                    Steinberg usb -> Computer usb

                                    if i setup midi source and midi out the same device meloaudio, this device freezes.
                                    of course i am not able to see the midi imput from the steinberg, because it is connected to the computer.

                                    Can you explain more the device connection chain?

                                    thanks.

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                                    • zimicj3
                                      zimicj3 last edited by

                                      Are all pedals compatible with this application? I haven't had experience with them and I plan to buy one of these. Will I be able to do it or will I need another application?

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                                      • NathanX
                                        NathanX last edited by

                                        Got it running great! Thanks for this great tool.

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