Help needed.
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AFAIK the option to allow to override device samplerate will only allow changes to the sample rate, buffer sizes should still be the same. I'll check with Justin though. Setting a project samplerate is also inter related to this. To me the project rate is something that needs to be thought about immediately when beginning a new project. Too many of the "help me I'm gonna die!!!!" posts happen because the recorded sample rate wasn't the one they intended
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@pipelineaudio said in Help needed.:
Its not so bad, really! This is an area with absolutely HORRID documentation, too much magic based thinking, and a sometimes too insular community....But if you think that's bad, the iOS side takes it up about 4 zillion notches worse!
I can show you how to do it in REAPER, and then once you know you got it working, you can go back to Ableton and apply what you learned and then do whatever interpretation you need in order to follow their syntax. I don't want anyone to accuse me of steering anyone to REAPER, and I don't want it seen that way, I just want to show how it can be done in an environment that I am familiar with.
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If you havent already, go to https://global.focusrite.com/downloads?product=Scarlett+2i2+Studio and make sure you get the correct driver for your device and operating system. Get the ASIO driver, and make sure its installed! Forget ASIO4ALL, Focusrite has a mature and for the most part, stable, USB ASIO driver.
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Go to https://www.reaper.fm/download.php and download the correct version of REAPER for your operating system, note whether you are running a 32 bit or 64 bit OS and download the right one accordingly. If it is at all possible to run the 64 bit version, do it. REAPER is honorware, trying this will cost you nothing. In a month, if you decide you want to buy it, go ahead. If not, it will nag you once a day, REAPER has no copy protection and was designed to never leave someone stuck in the field with license issues
For the next few items, these are all REAPER specific commands. There are multiple ways to get to the same commands in this DAW, and there is a context sensitive right click menu, as well as every single action can either be customized to keys or scripted, but I am going to just go through how to do it the slow and sure way, through the menu. If you decide to stick with it, you can set these commands much faster, but for now, at least this way I know it will all work with the default setup.
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Go to the Options menu on the toolbar. Pick preferences then choose Audio then Device. In that window click the dropdown menu "Audio System" and pick ASIO. Below there where is says "ASIO Driver" pick your Focusrite ASIO driver, NOT ASIO4All. Below that, make sure "enable inputs" is checked and set your first and last inputs to the first and last on your card, and set your first and last outputs the same way. From here it gets dicey depending on your driver, but try and click "ASIO Configuration" and see if that brings up the Focusrite ASIO control panel. For now lets try and set the buffers to 256. Finally, check the box for "Allow projects to override device sample rate
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Look in the toolbar icons, should be top left-ish on the screen, below the menubar and click the Project Settings icon, or click File in the menu and chose project settings. Check the box "Project sample rate" and chose 44,100, hit OK and close the window
These instructions are based on the default theme that REAPER ships with. It may not apply if you have changed to other themes, since all controls can be moved or hidden/shown depending on how the themer decided to set things up.
- Sorry for all that above, but now lets test the actual round trip audio! In the menu bar pick Track then chose "Insert new track". You should see a new track in the Track Control Panel area on the left (aka the TCP) and, if your horizontal mixer is showing, you'll see this track now mirrored next to the Master track on the Mixer Control Panel (aka the MCP). Like all things REAPER, if you hover your mouse over things, you'll get a tooltip. Move your mouse towards the left side of the new track in the TCP and there should be a reddish round button, the mouse tooltip for it should say "record arm/disarm". Click it to light it up red and arm the track.
Now we have to set the input for that track. You may have to drag the border bar between the TCP and the arrange window to see enough of the controls, but you want to find the input channel dropdown. It'll be in the bottom right of the track and hovering your mouse over it will say "record left" or possibly "record channel 1" by default. Click the dropdown arrow and hover over "Input Mono" and then from the menu that opens to the right, chose the input on your Scarlett that your guitar is plugged into. I believe it is input 1 on your particular model, but you'll know for sure if its right by the next step:
Play your guitar! You should see that track's meters light up as you play. If not, then something has gone wrong, most likely it was the wrong input chosen. If the meters light up and you are wondering, "hey why can't I hear my guitar, or see it in the master meter?", move your mouse over to the input monitoring control, somewhere in the bottom middle of the TCP, hovering your mouse over it will say "record monitoring" and it should vaguley look like a speaker icon. Click it until it says "record monitoring ON". You should now here your guitar, and the master meters should be moving as you play as well
If it gets this far successfully, let me know and we can continue from there
Thank you very much. I'll look into it over the weekend when i've got bit more time on me hand. But thank you so much.
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@pipelineaudio said in Help needed.:
Its not so bad, really! This is an area with absolutely HORRID documentation, too much magic based thinking, and a sometimes too insular community....But if you think that's bad, the iOS side takes it up about 4 zillion notches worse!
I can show you how to do it in REAPER, and then once you know you got it working, you can go back to Ableton and apply what you learned and then do whatever interpretation you need in order to follow their syntax. I don't want anyone to accuse me of steering anyone to REAPER, and I don't want it seen that way, I just want to show how it can be done in an environment that I am familiar with.
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If you havent already, go to https://global.focusrite.com/downloads?product=Scarlett+2i2+Studio and make sure you get the correct driver for your device and operating system. Get the ASIO driver, and make sure its installed! Forget ASIO4ALL, Focusrite has a mature and for the most part, stable, USB ASIO driver.
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Go to https://www.reaper.fm/download.php and download the correct version of REAPER for your operating system, note whether you are running a 32 bit or 64 bit OS and download the right one accordingly. If it is at all possible to run the 64 bit version, do it. REAPER is honorware, trying this will cost you nothing. In a month, if you decide you want to buy it, go ahead. If not, it will nag you once a day, REAPER has no copy protection and was designed to never leave someone stuck in the field with license issues
For the next few items, these are all REAPER specific commands. There are multiple ways to get to the same commands in this DAW, and there is a context sensitive right click menu, as well as every single action can either be customized to keys or scripted, but I am going to just go through how to do it the slow and sure way, through the menu. If you decide to stick with it, you can set these commands much faster, but for now, at least this way I know it will all work with the default setup.
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Go to the Options menu on the toolbar. Pick preferences then choose Audio then Device. In that window click the dropdown menu "Audio System" and pick ASIO. Below there where is says "ASIO Driver" pick your Focusrite ASIO driver, NOT ASIO4All. Below that, make sure "enable inputs" is checked and set your first and last inputs to the first and last on your card, and set your first and last outputs the same way. From here it gets dicey depending on your driver, but try and click "ASIO Configuration" and see if that brings up the Focusrite ASIO control panel. For now lets try and set the buffers to 256. Finally, check the box for "Allow projects to override device sample rate
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Look in the toolbar icons, should be top left-ish on the screen, below the menubar and click the Project Settings icon, or click File in the menu and chose project settings. Check the box "Project sample rate" and chose 44,100, hit OK and close the window
These instructions are based on the default theme that REAPER ships with. It may not apply if you have changed to other themes, since all controls can be moved or hidden/shown depending on how the themer decided to set things up.
- Sorry for all that above, but now lets test the actual round trip audio! In the menu bar pick Track then chose "Insert new track". You should see a new track in the Track Control Panel area on the left (aka the TCP) and, if your horizontal mixer is showing, you'll see this track now mirrored next to the Master track on the Mixer Control Panel (aka the MCP). Like all things REAPER, if you hover your mouse over things, you'll get a tooltip. Move your mouse towards the left side of the new track in the TCP and there should be a reddish round button, the mouse tooltip for it should say "record arm/disarm". Click it to light it up red and arm the track.
**> Now we have to set the input for that track. You may have to drag the border bar between the TCP and the arrange window to see enough of the controls, but you want to find the input channel dropdown. It'll be in the bottom right of the track and hovering your mouse over it will say "record left" or possibly "record channel 1" by default. Click the dropdown arrow and hover over "Input Mono" and then from the menu that opens to the right, chose the input on your Scarlett that your guitar is plugged into. I believe it is input 1 on your particular model, but you'll know for sure if its right by the next step:
Play your guitar! You should see that track's meters light up as you play. If not, then something has gone wrong, most likely it was the wrong input chosen. If the meters light up and you are wondering, "hey why can't I hear my guitar, or see it in the master meter?", move your mouse over to the input monitoring control, somewhere in the bottom middle of the TCP, hovering your mouse over it will say "record monitoring" and it should vaguley look like a speaker icon. Click it until it says "record monitoring ON". You should now here your guitar, and the master meters should be moving as you play as well
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If it gets this far successfully, let me know and we can continue from thereOk, so far so good. I am a bit lost on the bold part though.
Is this the menu that you are asking me to find? Cus i can't really seem to find any "record left", or "record channel 1".
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Here's a handy guide from Focusrite
https://support.focusrite.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207546025-Reaper-setup-guide
I'll try and do a screencap for you in a second, I don't have a screencap app installed in this computer yet
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Hopefully you can see this, if not I'll see if I can upload to youtube or something.
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@pipelineaudio Got it dude! And i've actually figured it out now! I've got decent tones everywhere now. Thanks a lot for setting me off!